Comments on: 9/11 http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/ An Iranian looking at Iran as a foreigner... Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:06:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: kamangir http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8226 kamangir Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:57:33 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8226 I see your point. His name is also spelled as "Mosadegh". Please see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosadegh I see your point. His name is also spelled as “Mosadegh”. Please see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosadegh

]]> By: moif http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8224 moif Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:04:52 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8224 I see your point, and I suppose the fact that I've hardly even heard of Mosadeq further serves to illustrate the validity of what you are saying... but There is always a but isn't there... I have to balance the good against the bad when I consider other countries (I mean other than my own) and draw my conclusions on what I understand. I know that the USA is guilty of many crimes, but which country is not? If I look at the bad aspects of the USA and compare them to the good, then I feel the good that the USA has brought about in the world, considerably out weighs the bad. That isn't to say I completely forgive the USA for all it has done, but it does mean I am sensible of what benefits it has brought, especially to its allies. Maybe I am too biased to see it any other way, but the imsple truth is, I would not even have been born if the USA had not liberated my nation and protected it from the Soviet Union. ...and now I am going got look up Mosadeq on Wikipedia. Take care dude! I see your point, and I suppose the fact that I’ve hardly even heard of Mosadeq further serves to illustrate the validity of what you are saying… but

There is always a but isn’t there…

I have to balance the good against the bad when I consider other countries (I mean other than my own) and draw my conclusions on what I understand. I know that the USA is guilty of many crimes, but which country is not? If I look at the bad aspects of the USA and compare them to the good, then I feel the good that the USA has brought about in the world, considerably out weighs the bad.

That isn’t to say I completely forgive the USA for all it has done, but it does mean I am sensible of what benefits it has brought, especially to its allies. Maybe I am too biased to see it any other way, but the imsple truth is, I would not even have been born if the USA had not liberated my nation and protected it from the Soviet Union.

…and now I am going got look up Mosadeq on Wikipedia.

Take care dude!

]]> By: kamangir http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8225 kamangir Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:06:53 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8225 I suggest that we do not remember many US attampts in the world which are not very well explainable, like the US-led coup against the Iranian prime minister Mosadeq. I suggest that we do not remember many US attampts in the world which are not very well explainable, like the US-led coup against the Iranian prime minister Mosadeq.

]]> By: moif http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8223 moif Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:15:29 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8223 Why not? Why not?

]]> By: kamangir http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8222 kamangir Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:00:13 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8222 I do not like your last sentence very much. I do not like your last sentence very much.

]]> By: moif http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8221 moif Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:18:18 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8221 <i>...nobody seems to be thinking about the origins of such acts. The American government (and people) should stop hiding their heads in the snow and think a bit. As far as I can see, all the terrorist mess in this world is the direct consequence of the short-sighted American foreign policy around the world.</i> Odd. It seems to me that this is ALL people are thinking about these days. ...further more, I find it a curious perspective that believes so much violence and hatred emanates solely from the actions and policies of the United States without ever once stopping to also consider that the Islamic world has been in direct conflict with European civilisation since the day it was founded. ...that 'holy war' is not a new concept, but in fact is far older than the nation known as the USA ...and even far older than the religion known as Islam! Its a shame that so much attention and blame is put upon the United States for no other nation in the history of the human race has done more to liberate and protect people from tyranny. …nobody seems to be thinking about the origins of such acts. The American government (and people) should stop hiding their heads in the snow and think a bit. As far as I can see, all the terrorist mess in this world is the direct consequence of the short-sighted American foreign policy around the world.

Odd. It seems to me that this is ALL people are thinking about these days.

…further more, I find it a curious perspective that believes so much violence and hatred emanates solely from the actions and policies of the United States without ever once stopping to also consider that the Islamic world has been in direct conflict with European civilisation since the day it was founded.

…that ‘holy war’ is not a new concept, but in fact is far older than the nation known as the USA …and even far older than the religion known as Islam!

Its a shame that so much attention and blame is put upon the United States for no other nation in the history of the human race has done more to liberate and protect people from tyranny.

]]> By: kamangir http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8220 kamangir Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:20:53 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8220 Mika, That's when we look at the problem form the perspective of giant powers. I agree with a part of your argument. However, can you show me a powerful government which has not tried to earn more power through attacking others? Any way, I was thinking about individuals caught in between what you may find a war. I doubt many of them did see the connection there. Mika,
That’s when we look at the problem form the perspective of giant powers. I agree with a part of your argument. However, can you show me a powerful government which has not tried to earn more power through attacking others?
Any way, I was thinking about individuals caught in between what you may find a war. I doubt many of them did see the connection there.

]]> By: kamangir http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8219 kamangir Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:17:06 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8219 Rebecca, Thanks for the update. Rebecca,
Thanks for the update.

]]> By: Mika http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8217 Mika Mon, 11 Sep 2006 07:30:55 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8217 "Attacking a country when it's proud of its success", true. But you have to have a longer memory than 5 years. While terrorist attacks in any forms are cowardish acts and should be stopped, nobody seems to be thinking about the origins of such acts. The American government (and people) should stop hiding their heads in the snow and think a bit. As far as I can see, all the terrorist mess in this world is the direct consequence of the short-sighted American foreign policy around the world. They make money or achieve success quickly, on the expense of other peoples' bloods, and then expect everyone to forget about them. “Attacking a country when it’s proud of its success”, true. But you have to have a longer memory than 5 years. While terrorist attacks in any forms are cowardish acts and should be stopped, nobody seems to be thinking about the origins of such acts. The American government (and people) should stop hiding their heads in the snow and think a bit. As far as I can see, all the terrorist mess in this world is the direct consequence of the short-sighted American foreign policy around the world. They make money or achieve success quickly, on the expense of other peoples’ bloods, and then expect everyone to forget about them.

]]> By: Rebecca http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8218 Rebecca Mon, 11 Sep 2006 02:56:32 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/09/10/911/#comment-8218 No, unfortunately, the photos of people falling from the WTC are not faked, although they were generally not printed in the U.S. newspapers. Shortly after the attacks, I watched a documentary on television - it was footage of a couple of filmmakers who had been following a firefighter crew around in order to make a film of them. They were filming on September 11. One of the things that's shown on the film is that you see the firefighters fleeing underneath a walkway that has a roof on it - and you hear the impact of bodies hitting the roof. Very eerie and sad. No, unfortunately, the photos of people falling from the WTC are not faked, although they were generally not printed in the U.S. newspapers. Shortly after the attacks, I watched a documentary on television - it was footage of a couple of filmmakers who had been following a firefighter crew around in order to make a film of them. They were filming on September 11. One of the things that’s shown on the film is that you see the firefighters fleeing underneath a walkway that has a roof on it - and you hear the impact of bodies hitting the roof. Very eerie and sad.

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