Comments on: “MidEast Youth” http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/ An Iranian looking at Iran as a foreigner... Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:36:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Kamangir (Archer) - کمانگیر » Blog Archive » Mideast Youth, Even Further http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-18946 Kamangir (Archer) - کمانگیر » Blog Archive » Mideast Youth, Even Further Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:54:51 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-18946 [...] was November 2006 when I first got to know Esra’a Al’shafei and her work at the Mideast Youth, through our mutual friend Tori Egherman. Since then, my respect for this [...] [...] was November 2006 when I first got to know Esra’a Al’shafei and her work at the Mideast Youth, through our mutual friend Tori Egherman. Since then, my respect for this [...]

]]> By: Mideast Youth » Blog Archive » The Mandatory Religious Experience http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8678 Mideast Youth » Blog Archive » The Mandatory Religious Experience Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:35:28 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8678 [...] The last type of comments I get are the least intellectual ones. “AND IF you truly search, GOD will aid your search and you will be rewarded” (see), “even your saying that you are not Muslim, does not make you any less Muslim in the heart”, (see), “you are substantially muslim in the heart” (see). I leave it to you to interpret these comments. [...] [...] The last type of comments I get are the least intellectual ones. “AND IF you truly search, GOD will aid your search and you will be rewarded” (see), “even your saying that you are not Muslim, does not make you any less Muslim in the heart”, (see), “you are substantially muslim in the heart” (see). I leave it to you to interpret these comments. [...]

]]> By: kamangir http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8673 kamangir Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:17:53 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8673 Kamangir the Patriot, I am not asking you to "shut up". Please understand that many of the things which are obvious to you, are hugely questionable and suspicious to me. I like to have a conversation with you, that's actually why I write here, but I think we should first define guidelines for our discussion. Kamangir the Patriot,
I am not asking you to “shut up”. Please understand that many of the things which are obvious to you, are hugely questionable and suspicious to me. I like to have a conversation with you, that’s actually why I write here, but I think we should first define guidelines for our discussion.

]]> By: kamangir http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8672 kamangir Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:14:24 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8672 Lily, Thanks for your nice comment. :) Lily,
Thanks for your nice comment. :)

]]> By: Kamangir the Patriot http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8671 Kamangir the Patriot Sat, 11 Nov 2006 06:04:34 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8671 Forgive. indenting is astray. May I try fixing. If I fail again, please delete one. So, is this supposed to mean that I must shut up? <blockquote cite="I"> I guess it’s another way of asking me to shut up. I thought you were a blogger in heart too, it transpires that you are not even a blogger in heart. bloggers are uneasy about being gagged and would not condone gagging by any one including themselves. If you have not read bloggers’ ethics, i suggest you read the handbook for bloggers and syber-dissidents from Reporters without Borders web site. Come back any time if you are less of a rejectionist, son!</blockquote> Forgive. indenting is astray. May I try fixing. If I fail again, please delete one.

So, is this supposed to mean that I must shut up?

I guess it’s another way of asking me to shut up.

I thought you were a blogger in heart too, it transpires that you are not even a blogger in heart. bloggers are uneasy about being gagged and would not condone gagging by any one including themselves. If you have not read bloggers’ ethics, i suggest you read the handbook for bloggers and syber-dissidents from Reporters without Borders web site.

Come back any time if you are less of a rejectionist, son!

]]> By: Kamangir the Patriot http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8670 Kamangir the Patriot Sat, 11 Nov 2006 05:57:06 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8670 Forgive. indenting is astray. Forgive. indenting is astray.

]]> By: Kamangir the Patriot http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8669 Kamangir the Patriot Sat, 11 Nov 2006 05:49:36 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8669 <blockquote>“You are substantially muslim in the heart”, what does this really mean? I am trying to stay calm but what you say is the worst kind of oppression; that I can not even choose for myself. Is this what your religion says? I beg you to spare me from your way of love. So, is this supposed to mean that I must shut up? I rather be an inexperienced youth, if you call it so I guess it's another way of asking me to shut up. I thought you were a blogger in heart too, it transpires that you are not even a blogger in heart. bloggers are uneasy about being gagged and would not condone gagging by any one including themselves. If you have not read bloggers' ethics, i suggest you read the handbook for bloggers and syber-dissidents from Reporters without Borders web site. Come back any time if you are less of a rejectionist, son!</blockquote>

“You are substantially muslim in the heart”, what does this really mean? I am trying to stay calm but what you say is the worst kind of oppression; that I can not even choose for myself. Is this what your religion says? I beg you to spare me from your way of love.

So, is this supposed to mean that I must shut up?

I rather be an inexperienced youth, if you call it so

I guess it’s another way of asking me to shut up.

I thought you were a blogger in heart too, it transpires that you are not even a blogger in heart. bloggers are uneasy about being gagged and would not condone gagging by any one including themselves. If you have not read bloggers’ ethics, i suggest you read the handbook for bloggers and syber-dissidents from Reporters without Borders web site.

Come back any time if you are less of a rejectionist, son!

]]> By: Lily http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8666 Lily Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:52:35 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8666 I'm sorry but I just have to say something about the comments here by 'Kamangir the Patriot' whoever you are. My comment is this=you should be free to believe what you want to believe at any given moment. Also, at any given moment your belief may change. The reason I know this is true is because 'change' and 'death' are the only two definite things universal to all people, regardless of where you are or what you believe. And since change is inevitable, it is naive to think that any one belief is immune to change. Change is what enables growth. Change is what leads to evolution. Change, my friend, is what the whole world is waiting with bated breath for, to see what the future holds. So to say something with such conviction about someone who you don't know, haven't met, and have minimal information about... is just plain stupid. But I do enjoy hearing opinions like yours, because they demonstrate a distinct problem with Islam= A misguided hostility towards change. I appreciate Kamangir providing a place to let all have a voice--It is brave and openminded. But I most appreciate the intelligent, rational and thoughtful opinions and responses Kamangir has regarding all of the topics here, made all the more thoughtful in contrast to yours. I’m sorry but I just have to say something about the comments here by ‘Kamangir the Patriot’ whoever you are.
My comment is this=you should be free to believe what you want to believe at any given moment. Also, at any given moment your belief may change. The reason I know this is true is because ‘change’ and ‘death’ are the only two definite things universal to all people, regardless of where you are or what you believe. And since change is inevitable, it is naive to think that any one belief is immune to change. Change is what enables growth. Change is what leads to evolution. Change, my friend, is what the whole world is waiting with bated breath for, to see what the future holds.
So to say something with such conviction about someone who you don’t know, haven’t met, and have minimal information about… is just plain stupid. But I do enjoy hearing opinions like yours, because they demonstrate a distinct problem with Islam= A misguided hostility towards change.

I appreciate Kamangir providing a place to let all have a voice–It is brave and openminded. But I most appreciate the intelligent, rational and thoughtful opinions and responses Kamangir has regarding all of the topics here, made all the more thoughtful in contrast to yours.

]]> By: Mideast Youth - Thinking ahead » The Mandatory Religious Experience http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8665 Mideast Youth - Thinking ahead » The Mandatory Religious Experience Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:53:20 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8665 [...] The last type of comments I get are the least intellectual ones. “AND IF you truly search, GOD will aid your search and you will be rewarded” (see), “even your saying that you are not Muslim, does not make you any less Muslim in the heart”, (see), “you are substantially muslim in the heart” (see). I leave it to you to interpret these comments. Bookmark this article:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...] [...] The last type of comments I get are the least intellectual ones. “AND IF you truly search, GOD will aid your search and you will be rewarded” (see), “even your saying that you are not Muslim, does not make you any less Muslim in the heart”, (see), “you are substantially muslim in the heart” (see). I leave it to you to interpret these comments. Bookmark this article:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]

]]> By: The Mandatory Religious Experience « Kamangir (Archer) - کمانگیر http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8664 The Mandatory Religious Experience « Kamangir (Archer) - کمانگیر Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:47:12 +0000 http://kamangir.net/2006/11/06/mideast-youth/#comment-8664 [...] The last type of comments I get are the least intellectual ones. “AND IF you truly search, GOD will aid your search and you will be rewarded” (see), “even your saying that you are not Muslim, does not make you any less Muslim in the heart”, (see), “you are substantially muslim in the heart” (see). I leave it to you to interpret these comments. [...] [...] The last type of comments I get are the least intellectual ones. “AND IF you truly search, GOD will aid your search and you will be rewarded” (see), “even your saying that you are not Muslim, does not make you any less Muslim in the heart”, (see), “you are substantially muslim in the heart” (see). I leave it to you to interpret these comments. [...]

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