Kamangir (Archer)

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1. shahriar | November 21st, 2006 at 6:44 pm

   wait a second..you live in canada no? when i was there, she had a weekly program on TVO, and she was quite visible on other networks too. She’s quite an interesting character.
   sz

2. kamangir | November 21st, 2006 at 9:31 pm

   Shahriar,
   Yeah! Many people seem to have attended his lectures. So bad I haven’t.

3. Ali | November 22nd, 2006 at 12:24 am

   Haha! Every now and then someone who is not even a scholar in Islam attempts to criticize it.

   This woman has been refuted by every reputable scholar and she has had nothing to say. Her book is just a sad attempt to talk about her abused childhood and her attempt to justify her homosexuality in Islam. Another Islamophobe to add to the list..

4. Jina | November 22nd, 2006 at 1:33 am

   Ali, can you link me to an article where her works have been refuted by a reputable scholar?

   What does her homosexuality do with this?

5. kamangir | November 22nd, 2006 at 4:20 pm

   Ali,

   who is not even a scholar

   Let’s do this. You read her book and find her first argument against which you can say anything. Then, we discuss it.

6. kamangir | November 22nd, 2006 at 4:20 pm

   Jina,
   I swear I read your comment after I wrote the answer to Ali’s! :)

7. Ali | November 23rd, 2006 at 4:01 am

   In 2003, Tarek Fatah, who was acknowledged at the beginning of The Trouble with Islam (for the discussions he had with the author), has criticized the book: “In one fragment of a sentence, “Muslim Complicity in the Holocaust,” Ms. Manji places all these warriors on the wrong side of the trenches.” . He also generally called the book a “diatribe against Muslims”, concluding: “Had it been written in good faith, I would have understood her reasoning, even if I did not agree with her. However, her book is not addressed to Muslims; it is aimed at making Muslim haters feel secure in their thinking.” and asked his name to be removed from future editions.

   In 2005, according to left-wing Canadian activist, Linda Belanger [2], on her website, “By page 30 of her book, Manji starts to sound like the pro-war, pro-Zionist, Islam bashing columnists from the pages of Canwest Global newspapers [...] Again, her enthusiasm for Western societies seems to be very ill informed. Women’s rights are a relatively new thing in Canada. [...] The trouble with The Trouble with Islam is that it is a biased, poorly researched and negative book.”

8. Ali | November 23rd, 2006 at 4:03 am

   The two most relevant phrases in each paragraph: “it is aimed at making Muslim haters feel secure in their thinking”, and “her enthusiasm for Western societies seems to be very ill informed”.

9. kamangir | November 23rd, 2006 at 12:59 pm

   Ali,
   Let’s talk about the book. Give me one argument in the book which you think is wrong.

10. Ali | November 25th, 2006 at 10:37 pm

    I could care less about that vile text. The entire basis of the book is wrong and immoral: it is a long rant against God and one of the world’s largest religions. Muslim or not, religion is something to be respected, and talked about sensibly. What other organizations or groups bind over a billion people together beside religion? None. Sensible people who are respectful of others would never bother to read this hate material.

11. kamangir | November 25th, 2006 at 11:35 pm

    religion is something to be respected

    This is an old trick, to keep things far and unreachable so that they survive criticism. I am afraid this method does not work any more. I am still waiting for the first sentence in this book against which you have something to say.

    What other organizations or groups bind over a billion people together beside religion? None.

    With all respect, There is another much bigger social focal point in the world, if size matters. It is porn. How many people in the world do you think have never been attracted into one kind of porn?

12. “The Problem With Islam Today”, Or When Every Word Is Published « Kamangir (Archer) - کمانگیر | November 28th, 2006 at 2:18 pm

    [...] Recently, I came upon the book “The Problem With Islam Today”. I thought, this should be a good book about Islam. So, I advocated for it here, and I got an angry comment about it (see). In that thread, I continuously asked for what the commenter found untrue in the book. He kept using words which I had heard from all my ideology teachers. He failed to give any worthy complaint about the book, but I think I have one. [...]

13. Mideast Youth - Thinking ahead » “The Problem With Islam Today”, Or When Every Word Is Published | November 28th, 2006 at 2:22 pm

    [...] Recently, I came upon the book “The Problem With Islam Today”. I thought, this should be a good book about Islam. So, I advocated for it here, and I got an angry comment about it (see). In that thread, I continuously asked for what the commenter found untrue in the book. He kept using words which I had heard from all my ideology teachers. He failed to give any worthy complaint about the book, but I think I have one. [...]

14. Howie | November 28th, 2006 at 3:47 pm

    Ali-

    What does religion have to fear from scrutiny, criticism and even humor? Do you fear the discovery of some truth…that there may be things wrong?

    You have attacked a “vile book” that you have not even read?

    I didn’t find it vile. I found the author very self-deprecating…yes flippant, but brave enough to take on a very sensitive but important topic.

    For her trouble she has had her life threatened numerous times…might that alone be part of “What is Wrong with Islam Today?”

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