Kamangir (Archer)

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1. ella | February 16th, 2007 at 12:23 am

   Archer

   It was very nice movie, but also quite good piece of propaganda.
   I loved the architecture but I counted 3 or 4 women in chadors..where are they?
   I enjoyed seeing stadiums and photo of matches, but I don’t think that women shown on the photos would not be allowed to show dressed up like that in government offices.
   I would like to see, in my two eyes the beautifull mosques and Persepolis, but most of Persepolis is destroyed, not taken care of.
   I liked pictures of Tehran, but were are the pictured of Qom?
   Because, I think, real Iran is both, Tehran and Qom, modern and conservative, new and old.
   And what happens if the old prevails, as it might and as it did in the past.

2. ella | February 16th, 2007 at 12:25 am

   ups.
   pls read “I don’t think that women shown on the photos would be allowed” i/o “I don’t think that women shown on the photos would not be allowed”

3. brando | February 16th, 2007 at 1:52 am

   At first I thought “Cool, I like pics from Iran.” Then I read that first part and realized what it was going to be, so I shut it off.

4. kamangir | February 16th, 2007 at 9:57 am

   Ella,
   Can you forget all that for a moment and enjoy the pictures and the music? :)

5. ella | February 16th, 2007 at 11:15 am

   Archer

   I did, but it would be much better without the introduction.

6. kamangir | February 16th, 2007 at 11:32 am

   Ella,
   Fine!

7. Ali | February 16th, 2007 at 8:08 pm

   Dear Ella,
   RE: “It was very nice movie, but also quite good piece of propaganda.
   I loved the architecture but I counted 3 or 4 women in chadors..where are they?”

   Now, I am not claiming to be an Iranian or an expert on Iran or anything at all. But Iran is a Muslim country… the architecture is beautiful, yes, perhaps if you read up on it a bit you would realize it too is Islamic in nature, as are many things in Iran. You cannot pretend to be pro-Iran and at the same time make statements against Islam, as the two go hand in hand. If you disagree, please let’s talk about it :)

8. ella | February 16th, 2007 at 10:44 pm

   Ali

   Can you quote anything anti-Islam I wrote?
   I am not anti-Islam, I am anti-fundamentalism (any fundamentalism, be it islamic, christian or jewish).
   Now tell me, do all Iranians are muslim fundamentalists? Is Arash a muslim fundamentalist? If all Iranians are muslim fundamentalists than Arash would also be anti-Iran, but I am sure, he is not.

9. Ali | February 17th, 2007 at 10:23 am

   Ella,

   I don’t know what you are talking about, I was just referring to your comment about the Chador, which is worn by Muslim (Irani) women

10. ella | February 17th, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    I am talking about your sentence “You cannot pretend to be pro-Iran and at the same time make statements against Islam,”.
    You are connecting chador to anti-islamic statements but statements against chador are not anti-islamic or anti-Iranian. Chador is not connected to any proscriptions in Quran. Traditional garment among Iranian women was not chador, chador was traditional among bedu and afghan tribes.
    As for Iranian women wearing chador now, not so many Iranian women wear chador, and of the ones who wear it, many wear it because they have to, not because they want to.

11. Ali | February 18th, 2007 at 1:58 pm

    Ø‘Ella,
    I am impressed with your level of Qur’anic scholarship, but I believe you may be incorrect. I copy/pasted a few Quranic verses on Chador below, but regardless even if the Qur’an said “Do not wear the chador”, the very obvious truth is that the chador/hijab/pardah/veil/niqab/etc are religious in nature and everyone who isn’t holding their fingers in their ears screaming “lalala” can recognize this fact.

    “O you Children of Adam! We have bestowed on you raiment to cover your shame as well as to be an adornment to you. But the raiment of righteousness, that is the best. Such are among the Signs of Allah, that they may receive admonition.” (Quran 7:26)

    “And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear therof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons, their husbands’ sons, their brothers, or their brothers’ sons or their sisters’ sons, or their women or the servants whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex, and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O you Believers, turn you all together towards Allah, that you may attain Bliss.” (Quran 24:31).

    “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.” (Quran 33:59)

12. Ali | February 18th, 2007 at 1:59 pm

    “As for Iranian women wearing chador now, not so many Iranian women wear chador, and of the ones who wear it, many wear it because they have to, not because they want to.”

    Don’t make absurd statements like this. Did you conduct a scientific survey or all Iranian women and their feelings on chador? If so I would love to see the results!
    No, rather someone with the same agenda espoused this garbage at some point and you merely recycled it.

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