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Ahmadinejad To Attend the Security Council Meeting

Kamangir | March 11, 2007 | Category Iran

According to the national television, Ahmadinejad is planning to attend the Security Council meeting in which the situation with Iran will be discussed. The government’s spokesperson mentioned his will to be “defending the Iranian nation’s right to benefit from peaceful nuclear technology”.

Reader's Comments

Vince P | March 11th, 2007 at 9:29 am
I hope he gets arrested for incitement to genocide, or his plane develop problems and crashes into the UN building.
serendip | March 11th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
I think he is addicted to attention…there is nothing to defend if he is not developing nuclear weapons…He must have loved the attention he received from bafoons like Brian Williams and Anderson Cooper and other groups last time he was in NY. He definitely displays a pervasive pattern of malignant narcissism; his need for admiration and attention are clearly evident by his excessive travelling schedule across Iran and around the globe.

He is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success (almost apocalyptic in proportion), supernatural power (inviting world leaders to Islam), brilliance. He is always having some of kind of grandiose news of some sort up in his bag of delusions. He believes that he is “special” and in contact with God and Imam Mahdi in some well in Jamakaran…What a lunatic.

I wonder if he is going to bring along that 16-year old girl who made nuclear energy in her kitchen to the UN?
ella | March 11th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
Serendip

I am not sure if excessive travelling schedule is a symptom of malignant narcissism, I think it is quite a good method of “showing that he cares about people” Not that I believe it, of course, but still, it is a good propaganda.
As for unlimited success, supernatural power and briliance….well, he might be a bit of megalomaniac, on the other hand other “leaders” also invited West to “repent” and “come back to Islam”, he just tells it loudly.
The well in Jamakaran…..if I heard about it surely is famous.
As for other stuff, he is just fanatic, little louder than many others from KSA, Egypt, Libya, Nonetheless he is quite popular among the Arabs with his loud anti-west, “Islam uber alles”, politics.
ella | March 11th, 2007 at 5:18 pm
ups (again I made mistake in English :-( )
should be “if I heard about it, it surely is famous.”
serendip | March 11th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
He definitely suffers from some kind of hallucination and exhibits delusional of grnadeur common in people with schizoid disorder…Actually Iranian psychologists have diagnosed his as delusional with paranoid schizoid disorder or something to that effect. Can you read Persian? I can send you the link.
serendip | March 11th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
Ella here is the link in Persian:

http://www.iranian.com/Noghrekar/2007/January/Mental/index.html

Google schizophrenia and check out DSM IV on the clusters of symptomps that determine the diagnosis, if you’re familiar with Diagnostic and Statistic Manual of Mental Disorder…
Mashdihassan | March 11th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Serendip,

But I think all the great leaders were mentally sick. Look at the history, all the great names thought they could do something that a “normal” person would say it’s madness. But they did it!

Hitler, Mao, Chingiz, Stalin, Gandhi, Mossadegh, Mandela, and thousands and thousands of other people. Only thing is some of them become heros and some of them become killers:

http://www.moreorless.au.com/

Who knows? may be one day in the future people say Ahmadinejad was a hero!!! :D
Mashdihassan | March 11th, 2007 at 10:43 pm
before people start yelling at me, by “great” I didn’t mean that they were positive or negative. I only meant “big guys”…
serendip | March 11th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
Being positive, great, negative, or heros have nothing to do with having mental illness…some of the greatest poets and artists suffer from bipolar disorder and schizophrenia…Mental disorder is calssified according to scientific conventions as mental disorder, nothing less and nothing more.
alphabet city | March 12th, 2007 at 12:37 am
Ahmadinejad To New York?…

…file this away under ‘another “hypocritical political exercise” by President Apocalyptajad.’…
Mashdihassan | March 12th, 2007 at 1:17 am
Serendip,

But I didn’t disagree with you. I only said he is not the only one.

In addition, psychology (like many other sciences) cannot introduce “absolute” definitions. They can only define things based on some assumptions and conventions. If you change these assumptions and conventions, everything else will change!

Sorry but I come from mathematics background. So, such definitions seem so inaccurate to me - nothing less and nothing more :)
serendip | March 12th, 2007 at 2:58 am
mashdihassan:What kind of a mathematician are you? You seem not to know a lot about Scientific Research Methods that are used to quantify abstract notions. Did you study in Iran?
serendip | March 12th, 2007 at 3:01 am
Cognitive science (psychlogy) is the foundation of artificial intelligence design in computers. Have you ever heard of psychometrics? Google it.
RA | March 12th, 2007 at 3:05 am
Would you give a Psychopath tools to make a bomb
ella | March 12th, 2007 at 4:06 am
Serendip

I am quite familiar with DSM IV. I have to agree somewhat with Mashdihassan, particularly concerning diagnosis and medication of mental illnesses, it is not an exact science. There are even some small differences in diagnosing this kind of illnesses between doctors in US/Canada and in EU.

As for farsi, I am at the very beginner’s level, so such things as reading medical diagnosis in farsi is over my head (and my poor farsi ability :-( )…hopefully some day soon.

Mashdihassan

Conventions and definitions in psychiatry have not been taken from the air. Psychiatry is still a science, as opposed to, say, political science, where definitions change depending on the country and the system and it seems that tea leaves might get better predictions.
Serendip | March 12th, 2007 at 10:52 am
Dear Ella:
One can argue that medicine and pharmacotherapy are not exact sciences either; hence recall of drugs and warning labels (Viox, Bextra, etc.) are not exact sciences either. But to launch an in-depth discussion to debate the validity of your assertion in regards to discipline of psychiatry would be inappropriate on this thread and Iâ€™m sure the level of details and granulation that I normally get into would bore everyone death; neither do I have time to embark on such endeavors. At any rate, I still maintain that the Mighty Mouse is a very disturbed individual and has an intellectual capacity of a lizard…
Mashdihassan | March 13th, 2007 at 12:39 am
Serendip,

Why are you so angry with me? yes, I studied in Iran. But this doesn’t change anything. For your information, statistics is not at all considered as an absolute science! also there are some discussions in math that, some important parts of Algebra and Geometry are not absolute facts either! for example the Pythagorean theorem is completely wrong in an non-Euclidean space!

The Pythagorean theorem in non-Euclidean geometry

When such theorems that were symbol of mathematics for thousands of years are not always true, how dare could you say that something like medicine and pharmacotherapy are absolute? while they are completely experimental and based on statistics. Don’t you see that everyday some medicines are announced as bad prescriptions or even banned medicines in some countries?

And how could you proof that a person is “normal”? based on which patterns? are these patterns not defined by you? I have no problem with your conclusions. My problem is with the definitions which can be simply changed at any second by a new scientist!
Mashdihassan | March 13th, 2007 at 1:10 am
Dear Ella,

Thank you very much for your effort to make a peace between Serendip and me :) I really appreciate it :)

I have respect for Serendip’s comments but I still persist that Ahmadinejad is not the only mentally ill leader. In fact only irrational people can make very big changes. Because they have ability to ignore other ideas and go ahead with their aims even if it is extremely expensive.
Mashdihassan | March 13th, 2007 at 1:12 am
where is my first comment? :(
Kamangir | March 13th, 2007 at 2:55 am
Mashdihassan,
Sorry, it was in the spam directory. I promise that I will find a solution for it.
ella | March 13th, 2007 at 3:44 am
Mashdihassan/Serendip

I think that from standpoint of theoretical mathematicians all other sciences are not “exact”, that’s why they, being so proud of themselves, called mathematics “the queen of sciences”.
On the other hand how many people did mathematics cure?

I agree that there is no point in discussing meanders and wonders of psychiatry (please note that my opinion on psychology is much lower )

In fact only irrational people can make very big change

Not true, not true at all. Ahmadinejad may be not the only mentally ill leader, but as for big changes he is far behind others.
And if your statement was true that would mean that Khomeini was really a sick guy as were Cyrus the Great, Darius, Cezar, and Jan III Sobieski.
(Sobieski was a mentally ill person?………. that’s blasphemy!!!)
Mashdihassan | March 13th, 2007 at 4:51 am
Nice discussion, no?

Returning to the main point. If we define a “normal” behaviour first, then anything not matching the given pattern will be called “illness”. This is how the psychology work.

Regarding the mathematics, of course if you have an MRI today or other super modern devices to investigate parts of body or make medicines, it’s all because of pure sciences - Mathematics, Physics and Chemistry :)

And finally - the most important part of the discussion: “Ahmadinejad”

I guess he is going to really make the bomb. If this happens he has done something “big”. Even if it destroys all Iranian people’s life and make them completely isolated from the world like DPRK. So, you see? if there was a person with little brain instead of him, this wouldn’t really happen.

And sorry, I never said Sobieski was also ill. He was an exception :D
Vince P | March 15th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
Can you folks with better knowledge of Islam and Iran help answer my question. Ahmadinejad made reference to “torn paper” regarding the UN.

quote:
TEHERAN - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Thursday dismissed any new UN sanctions resolution as â€œa torn piece of paperâ€ that would not stop Teheranâ€™s nuclear work, a local news agency reported.

â€œIssuing such torn pieces of paper … will not have an impact on Iranian nationâ€™s will (to obtain nuclear technology),â€ the semi-official Mehr news agency quoted Ahmadinejad as telling a rally in central Iran.

unquote.

Torn Pieces of Paper is a phrase that has significance in Islamic history. Why is he using that phrase?

The Muslim prophet Muhammad of Islam wrote a series of letters to the rulers of the great nations surrounding Arabia, calling them to his new faith. To Heraclius, the Eastern Roman Emperor in Constantinople, he wrote: “I invite you to Islam, and if you become a Muslim you will be safe…” (Bukhari 1.1.6)

He wrote a similar letter to Khosrau (Chosroes), ruler of the Persians. But after reading it, Khosrau contemptuously tore it to pieces.

When news of this reached Muhammad, he called upon Allah to tear the Persian emperor and his followers to pieces (Bukhari 5.59.708): “Khosrau will be ruined,” Muhammad declared, “and there will be no Khosrau after him, and Caesar will surely be ruined and there will be no Caesar after him, and you will spend their treasures in Allah’s Cause” (Bukhari 4.52.267).
Kamangir | March 15th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Vince P,
I should confess that I am amazed how much you know about Iran and Islam, but, the expression “torn-paper” is a one-word name in Persian implying a useless piece of paper.
Vince P | March 15th, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Kamangir:

Back in 1998, I lived in Hong Kong. ANd I remember being on a bus, and on the bus were some Ex-Pats from the UK. The paper had a story about this guy in some cave somewhere, named Bin Laden.

The UK guy asked me what I thought him. and I said it’s ridiculious that some guy in a cave can be significant in any way, that he’s a creation by the media and should just be ignored.

Later that year the US Embassies in Africa were destroyed

Starting in 98 after the bombings I started a research effort to figure out why I was wrong about Bin Laden. What was it that I missed. Why did I miss it. I considered myself an objective smart person, so to have missed the importance of Bin Ladens means that I had a bias or ignorance that I didn’t know was there.

So I started at the foundations… who is Bin Laden, who does he say he is, and what is the foundation of his ideology.

Well in no time that meant studying the history of Islam and its prophet Mohemmed.

Western people in general KNOW NOTHING about Islam. I’m distrubed by what they don’t know. I’m disturbed about how utterly naive they are about it. I’m disturbed by what I see as a global jihad (the 3rd Islamic Jihad vs the West) and most Western people actively deny it.

I do know the entire Federal Govt of the US is broken. I know that Europe is hopelessly weak. I dont see a good future on the horizon.