Kamangir (Archer)

March 19, 2007

The Naive IR Liars

Filed under: Iran — Kamangir @ 3:35 am

iran.jpgApparently, the Islamic Republic is still living in the era when you could deny what you had said formerly.

The story began with a sentence in the AP’s translation of Ahmadinejad’s speech in Ardakan, Yazd Province. AP carried the sentence “If all of you gather and also invite your ancestors from hell, you will not be able to stop the Iranian nation.” Although, these words quite perfectly match Ahmadinejad’s vocabulary, when I failed to find the sentence in the official Persian sources, I contacted the AP and asked them what their source had been. They responded, rather quickly, that the sentence does exist in the text published by IRNA, the Islamic Republic News Agency. I did a more extensive research on it and again failed to find any trace of the sentence anywhere, except for a Persian blog which did not indicate its source. So I asked the AP to send me their link.

Now, thanks to my friend Shimbalkhan, a rather meaningless name in Persian, we actually found out that the official newspaper of the government, Iran, published the speech and it did include the rather rude sentence. Thus, to this point, the conclusion is that AP did not make any mistake in the translation and that the IR, rather naively, tried to cover up Ahmadinejad’s remarks. It is interesting to know that the sentence is in fact printed on the front page (pdf).

Guys, this is the year 2007. I guess Khomeini and others did manage to change their words and deny what they had said, but, fortunately, your words are archived forever.

24 Comments »

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  2. Wow. Great work.

    Comment by brando — March 19, 2007 @ 4:54 am

  3. Brando,
    Thanks. :)

    Comment by Kamangir — March 19, 2007 @ 5:02 am

  4. Good job man.

    Comment by Amin — March 19, 2007 @ 7:57 am

  5. Dear Kamangir,
    You are so “close minded” that cant realize friend from enemy.
    Again you are so “close minded” that cant see your countrie’s progress.
    Again you are so “close minded” that you are being decieved by those whome you are supporting .
    And Im sorry for you. God may help the ignorant.

    Comment by Santa — March 19, 2007 @ 9:43 am

  6. A.K., in addition to AP, the NDI’s Open Source Center also translated the Persian as “from hell,” although, instead of “invite…ancestors,” it used “summon…forefathers.”

    —>Addressing the enemies of the Iranian nation, President Ahmadinezhad said: What are you after? Today, the Iranian nation has gained full access to the nuclear fuel cycle, and if all of you get together, and even summon your forefathers from Hell, still you will not be able to stop the progress of the Iranian nation.

    Comment by Robert Stevens — March 19, 2007 @ 11:01 am

  7. Ok. That’s weird. The last quarter of my comment didn’t publish.

    Adding url for NDI OSC Ahmadinejad translation.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alphacity/message/1333

    Comment by Robert Stevens — March 19, 2007 @ 11:04 am

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  9. Thank you for taking the time to get to the truth of the matter.

    Comment by Renée — March 19, 2007 @ 1:43 pm

  10. Kamangir, congratulations on such thorough investigation. You are truly a reporter to be relied on!

    Comment by zaratzara — March 19, 2007 @ 2:22 pm

  11. Robert, Renee, and Zaratzara,
    Thanks. :)

    Comment by Kamangir — March 19, 2007 @ 3:07 pm

  12. Santa,
    Chakerim, :)

    Comment by Kamangir — March 19, 2007 @ 3:08 pm

  13. Great work Arash.

    Comment by Matthew — March 19, 2007 @ 4:44 pm

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  15. I am not in the habit of defending the use of religion in politics but didn’t people across the planet pitch a hissy when Bush said that he talked to God before making decisions? Isn’t claiming that the forefathers of one’s enemies are in Hell somewhat… inflammatory? Or if one is a head of state, somewhat demented? Could someone please inform any Iranians who might be wondering if now would be a good time for a coup, that their religious leaders have “elected” someone who is, at best, spinning out of his mind?

    Comment by Saul — March 19, 2007 @ 6:06 pm

  16. Wow, Kaman, outstanding job. Thank you so much.

    Comment by Serendip — March 19, 2007 @ 7:27 pm

  17. oh, I forgot. Happiest of norooz to you and your family. I wish you the best in all your endeavors.

    ِبا درودی بی پایان
    نوروز باستانی یادگار بی بدیل پیشینیان را تبریک گفته ، آرزومند سلامت و سعات و موفقیت شما در رساندن آگاهی همگانی هستم

    Comment by Serendip — March 19, 2007 @ 7:35 pm

  18. Serendip,
    Thanks. Happy New Year to you, too. :)

    Comment by Kamangir — March 19, 2007 @ 7:43 pm

  19. 1- Happy new year drear Arash!
    I wish you and Azadeh a life full of health, happiness and success.
    2- I’ve really missed you two!
    3- When I wanted to write a “happy new year” I decided to write a Persain poem. Now, I see Serendip has done the same thing and left a persian line. I don’t know what is the secret about these Persian congratulations that everywhere is going on. It seems that English ones are not complete!!
    سال خرم، فال نيکو، مال وافر، حال خوش اصل ثابت، نسل باقي، تخت عالي، بخت رام
    though some of these wishes seems meaningless but they are sweet!
    5- Happy new year to all Kamangir readers!

    Comment by shimbalkhaan — March 19, 2007 @ 8:28 pm

  20. What’s left of Ahmadinejhad and his Persian satrapies may well breakfast on camel turds with his own ancestors, once we in the gentle, kindly West get serious about Islam’s torturers and murderers.

    Comment by Pyrthroes — March 19, 2007 @ 9:12 pm

  21. Pyrthroes,
    I guess that’s the type of language I refrain from using.

    Comment by Kamangir — March 19, 2007 @ 10:13 pm

  22. Shimbalkhaan,
    Chakerim refigh. :D

    Comment by Kamangir — March 19, 2007 @ 10:14 pm

  23. It’s called “abrogation”.

    The principle of abrogation — al-naskh wa al-mansukh (the abrogating and the abrogated) — directs that verses revealed later in Muhammad’s career “abrogate” — i.e., cancel and replace — earlier ones whose instructions they may contradict. Thus, passages revealed later in Muhammad’s career, in Medina, overrule passages revealed earlier, in Mecca. The Quran itself lays out the principle of abrogation:

    2:106. Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We {Allah} abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do all things?

    Comment by Luther Heggs — March 20, 2007 @ 4:54 pm

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