Ahmadinejad: Nuclear News To be Announced
Posted by KamangirApr 1
According to IRNA, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stated “the Iranian people will soon hear some news regarding the Iranian nuclear development “. While I think what he intended to say was that “the world will hear” the “news”, I guess they have a very good reason to prolong the sailors’ crisis. Thanks to a pro-IR friend who poined this out.
http://podcast.medianext.com/stations/kcbs/media/mpeg/Sean_Penn_s_Letter_to_President_Bush-1174766920.mp3
PLEASE LISTEN TO THE END!
Smileme
and what do you want to prove with that link? That iran is a great country? In my book it is not a great country, it is the country whose people abrogated greatness. You, not anybody else, followed Khomeini, you people support Hizbullah, you want to destroy Israel . Don’t say that it is your government who is at fault, your people choose that government and you cheer up when british soldiers are shown on TV, nobody else but you. Basiji are iranians, mullahs are iranians, people who help hizbullah to destroy Lebanon are iranians, …if it is greatness than I never want my country to be as great as Iran.
You bark at americans and Bush, but do you support Iraqis? No, you want Iraq to be under Iranian and only Iranian influence, because Iran is great country so surely it has to help Iraq, your way. Everything is fault of someone else, but never fault of Iranians.
You accuse americans and others of double standards but you never acknowledge that majority of you have also a double standards. Until majority of you realize that fact, you will always be a wannabe country, and greatness will always elude you.
Ella: I couldn’t have said it better myself. They also never condem, the militia death squads funded and trained by the Ayatollahs to kill Sunnis in Iraq and kick Palestinians out of Iraq. They don’t acknowledge that it was the Ayatollahs who helped President Bush to invade Afghanistan and Iraq…The hypocrisy is breathtaking. They also never mention all the proxy wars, they have funded and ordered across the globe to destroy the Great Satan and return Jeursalem back to the Ummah…They also think American and Israeli are stupid and they don’t know what the mullahs have been up to for the past 28 years…
This article nails it and gives you the true nature of this regime and those who support it:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/small-fry-in-irans-big-picture/2007/04/01/1175366077772.html#
Wow go ella / serendip give it to Smileme with both barrels..
Ella when you say…
“You, not anybody else, followed Khomeini” – Do you mean Smileme or all Iranians?
“you cheer up when british soldiers are shown on TV” – Do you mean Smile me or all Iranians?
“You bark at americans and Bush” – Do you mean Smileme barks (like a dog) or all Iranians? – nice dehumanising him like that and devaluing anything he says.
Serendip…
“They also never condem, the militia death…” Do you mean all Iranians?
They don’t acknowledge that it was the Ayatollahs who helped President Bush to invade Afghanistan and Iraq… – Yeh great fat lot of good it did the Iranians backing America in Afghanistan (next week they are axis of evil. and btw Iran was fighting the Taliban when Cheney et al want to build gas pipelines with them.
There are so many Iranians who detest IR, there are a great many Iranians who like to look at things from a balanced perspective. You just posted on the website of one of those (gee the irony)- well OK he lives in Canada(but the still counts). Finding opinions that don’t re-inforce your world view is not that challenging, just because the worlds media only ever shows screaming, chanting ,hating Iranians on TV please don’t assume they are all like that.
I do not assume that all Americans or anyone for that matter is the same as the media portrays them (the media would be so dull if it accurately portrayed what the vast majority of people get up to in the world, so it reports extremes).
Generalising is intellectually lazy, from reading most of your posts you both strike me as smart people. Which is why I am so upset by your posts….
But then you might just have been having a go at Smileme which is fair enough.. (not)
Just a thought, I am sure the overwhelming majority Iranians would love to see the back of the IR. Just do them a favour and have the US government stop supporting the IR (mad mullahs) by saying the “regime should be changed” this instantly gives the mullahs a stick to beat the opposition, moderating influences, progressives with… geez its almost as if someone somewhere rather likes the status quo?
Have a nice day!
Well said, Darius!
But Ella clearly said IN HER BOOK. A fact, that obviously would not prevent her “feeling free” to talk for and judge about all Iranians. And “her book” is telling much more about herself, than about Iranians . Fortunately.
Darius: By “they”, I didn’t mean the entire population of Iran. By “they”, I meant people like Smileme or whatever.
I know only 20% of Iranians support this regime and the rest abhor the regime.
I hate to break to you people, the US and in fact, the world, is not waiting for either your or my pearls of wisdom to do what it needs to do to protect it’s economic and strategic national interest. Believe me, they are not waiting for CASMII’s phone call or Serendip’s expert opinion to do what they think they must do.
We have to be realistic and face reality and facts instead of building a parallel universe for ourselves thinking that we can influence American policy. American foreign policy has not changed in over a 50 years. Yes, they’ve made mistakes here and there and have revised it but the overall policy has not changed and will not.
what the IRI has been doing in the region is undermining the entire world order and Ahmadinejad and his ilk have said admitted as much. Why do you think they spend so much money on Lebanon, Palestine, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq. Do you really think they care about Iraq or Lebanese? They don’t even care about the Iranians. We all have relatives and friends back home and the last thing we want is for them to die…or Iran turning into another Iraq…I’m hoping that before Iran is reduced to rubbles or the economy of Iran is more ruined than it already has, people will rise up and do something before it’s too late. Hiding the truth about the IRI is not going to help anything…because like I stated earlier, the US is not waiting for our advice…the US will do what they have to do to protect their interests. The US is not going to leave the region without a fight….that’s a fact whether you like or not.
Serendip,
Respectfully. I would have to say. Dis-agreeing with the way the US Government conducts some of its affairs does not make me someone who is trying to hide the failings of the IR.
You are right, my opinions will never be heard by the powers that be, will not chage how they operate, but does that make my holding them and expressing them any less valid?
I have no illusions about the failings of the IR. I also have no illussion that in the same way that you correctly surmise about the IR both they and the US Government are looking to change the world to best suite their needs.
Frankly neither option fills me with joy!
Darius: I never really painted a pretty picture. I just stated some obvious facts as they are at this juncture and pragmatic solutions to the problems rather than wishful thinking.
Anthropologically speaking, our history of species has been of warfare, empires and landgrab. The cave men were more civilized compared to some of our behavior as homosapiens later on. The consensus among archaeologists and anthropologists seems to be that cave people were too busy trying to survive and care for an entire group of people to indulge in warfare. There are even skeletal remains of handicapped people who were obviously taken care of by the rest of the group. Of course, populations were sparse, land and territory were not an “issue” in hunter-gatherer societies, since land “ownership” was not a concept then. Later, when an agrarian existence came into being, and “ownership” of land became an issue, along with resources to grow crops and have places for livestock to graze, then warfare became part of the lives of human beings – and continued to be more commonplace as human beings “evolved.”
When it comes to art work and tools from the ancient past, it seems that people of the paleolithic era were far more civilized than present-day human beings. They had cooperative hunts that enabled the greatest number of them to survive to produce young, and feed, clothe and care for an entire group, and that’s reflected in cave paintings and weaponry designed to kill animals for food, but not weapons to kill each other.
As the world becomes increasingly over-populated, humans have devolved into less civilized beings. Not only do we kill each other, but we kill off other species and make whole regions uninhabitable with our waste products and our pollution at alarming rates, disrupting the balance once sustained by Mother Nature.
That’s a sad commentary on our species more than any other artificial divisions.
Jehanna
Why I should give an opinions of others? What I wrote is my opinion which is what the sentence “in my book” means.
I also have right to judge people like you, because you also tend to judge people and the entire countries.
Darius
There are so many Iranians who detest IR, there are a great many Iranians who like to look at things from a balanced perspective
Do I say there are none, after all one of them is Serendip.
Finding opinions that don’t re-inforce your world view is not that challenging, just because the worlds media only ever shows screaming, chanting ,hating Iranians on TV please don’t assume they are all like that.
I am not assuming that allIranians are screaming, chanting, and hating, however I assume that many iranians are like that…….. some because they believe what IRI says, some because they have to do that, some because they prefer present government to the chaos which may come if IRI will get bust, some because whatever they say they are still the daughters and sons of mullahs and bazaris, still many because they believe that all evil comes from abroad.
ust a thought, I am sure the overwhelming majority Iranians would love to see the back of the IR. Just do them a favour and have the US government stop supporting the IR (mad mullahs) by saying the “regime should be changed†this instantly gives the mullahs a stick to beat the opposition, moderating influences, progressives with… geez its almost as if someone somewhere rather likes the status quo
Darius
US and EU should stop saying the regime should be changed and instead should be saying IR should stay on. US should keep quiet on arrests of some Iranians and should say that IRI have right to arrest women protesters. US should give mullahs more money, perhaps even the accept that some IRI students abroad steal the scientific discoveries and/or blueprints of newly developed products for the benefit of IRI ……….gee wiz, it is almost like someone somewhere rather likes the status quo.
As for overwhelming majority of Iranians who would love to see the back of IR?………….are you so sure about it? They probably have no idea what government they would like to have instead of IRI.
Ella: May I ask the name of your book? Thanks.
Ella,
thanks for clarifying for me that you meant it is many and not all Iranians who act in the way you describe. (Btw you missed out Kam, and this is his blog – how rude)
Maybe you are right, right now Iranians may not know what government they would like after the IR (I am not sure if the majority of Americans know who they want after Bush II).
Perhaps you should leave it the Iranians to decide what they want for themselves. Seems like the last time the Iranians tried to make a choice for themself the US government decided they got it wrong, and imposed a solution.
A sure bet is that they want a government that looks after the interests of its citizens first, that isn’t bound over to an external power for its security, that will ensure that the children of its land do not need to go overseas to have a future.
The questions to me are:
Will the US government stand idly by and let that happen?
Is there enough pragmatism in Iran to realise that after almost 30 years of a direction that hasn’t given the people what they so richly deserve to opt for a change of direction?
Only time will tell.