Kamangir (Archer)

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1. daiyy | May 23rd, 2007 at 11:46 pm

   LOL. Who made that image. Kind of perverted and disrespectful of women I think.

2. serendip | May 24th, 2007 at 2:13 am

   Pervertd? disrespectful? only if you see women as sexual objects and can’t view them in any other light as human being who just happen to be women.

3. Roman Kalik | May 24th, 2007 at 6:14 am

   Curses, foiled again! Quickly, Brother Steven, we must make haste to the Secret Elders of Zion Moon Base (TM) and make new nefarious plans.

   Seriously though, I’m saddened every time I see this sort of headline coming out of Iran. When the children of Cyrus the Great’s ancient empire reduce themselves to pan-Arabist and pan-Christian discourse, this particular Jew becomes very sad indeed.

   Oh well.

4. Barney | May 24th, 2007 at 9:41 am

   Persepolis is brilliant stuff, a great biography.

   It’s no real surprise that Spielberg would be seen as a Zionist by the instigators of the ‘Zionist Conspiracy’. But it’s also important to remember that his recent film Munich got him a terrible time from Zionists all over. For that he was awarded that disgusting politically-charged title ’self-hating Jew’.

   Well, being Jewish (or an Iranian woman) and interested in history is a dangerous combination.

   And as for Cyrus - he liberated the Jews, we can’t talk about him!

5. serendip | May 24th, 2007 at 4:51 pm

   Cyrus was a “zionist”. In fact, he laid the theoritical ground work for all the zionists to follow…(sarcasm)

   I don’t see the IR decrying that Hizballah and Lebanese Army are zionists too since they’ve been shelling the Palestinian refugees camps in Lebanon or asking the Lebanese why they haven’t integrated the Palestinian after 30 years of living in abominable conditions.

   From Lebanon: http://sietske-in-beiroet.blogspot.com/:

   Shatila refugess camp was never intended to be a camp, and it was never intended to house over 10,000 people. But there they live, and they do not have any other place to go to, so they really live on top of each other. They have little hope for a different future, as the majority of them possess Palestinian papers which cannot function as travel documents. Most of them have lived in squalor since 1948. There are some roads in Shatila that will allow cars to pass through, but the majority of the infrastructure consists of narrow alleyways, crooked, like a labyrinth. It is dim, because sunlight does not reach that deep, and the wind does not blow here either. There is a stale smell of humans, refuse and food. Most of the alleyways are less than a meter wide. On both sides iron doors in the wall give access to dark rooms, where people sit on white plastic garden chairs and sleep on mattresses on the floor. I am not making this up, I’ve just come from there. You feel like in a time machine; like you are walking through a medieval town. The Middle Ages revisited. They wouldn’t be able to produce a more authentic set in Hollywood than this one.
   You can read more about the situation in Lebanon here:(note: She is Dutch journalist who lives in Lebanon

   http://sietske-in-beiroet.blogspot.com/

6. aban | May 24th, 2007 at 6:11 pm

   kamangir jan;
   age vaght dari ye matni be farsi ham rajeb be persepolis benevis.iranihaa (ke zabane digey balad nistand) kheili rajeb behesh bi etela’and va mote’asefane badjoor tahte ta’sire resanehaaye iran gharar gereftand.
   bebakhshid dar ghesmate english e webloget pinglish neveshtam. bezar be hesabe in aadate iraniaa ke hich vaght nemitoonan baa ham gheir az farsi be zabane digeyi rahat harf bezanand :)
   Translation: Please kindly write a piece in Persian about her work.

7. serendip | May 24th, 2007 at 6:52 pm

   Kaman: If you have time please translate the link below into farsi too(I’m just kidding) You should be getting paid for this.:)

   Satrapi blasts Iran’s ‘Persepolis’ protest

   http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117965713.html?categoryId=1061&cs=1

8. Roman Kalik | May 24th, 2007 at 8:37 pm

   Self-hating Jew? Don’t remember the discourse on Munich going that far here in Israel, and the olympics are a major sore spot for us. People did say that he was trying too hard to make the movie “balanced”.

   In any case, he got the Mossad agents down to very fine detail. The way they always asked for receipts shows quite accurately how our bureaucracy worked then, and to an extent still works today.

9. Kamangir | May 24th, 2007 at 10:34 pm

   Daiyy

   LOL. Who made that image. Kind of perverted and disrespectful of women I think.

   You think so?

10. Kamangir | May 24th, 2007 at 10:36 pm

    serendip,
    Thanks for the link.

11. daiyy | May 24th, 2007 at 11:30 pm

    RE: Serendip:
    No sorry! I hope you do not think that, I don’t view women as sexual objects, women and their rights are to be respected, not trampled upon. Hijab is about the protection of those rights and their sanctity. I encourage you to do some reading on this topic! See http://www.ezsoftech.com/akram/hijab.asp .

    متشکرم۔

12. serendip | May 25th, 2007 at 12:04 am

    Daiyy: That site is hate-filled gibberish and full of lunacy…Why do “women need protection from the eyes of non-believers”. This is the most racist,Anglophobic, Christianphobic, infidelphobic arrogant, and ethnocentric view of Islam. Perhaps this is Khomeinist or Shia Islam, eh?

    You need to find other sites who don’t disgrace Islam like that and are not as oblivious as this one. Step into the 21st century. We are all humans and god’s children whether muslims or non-muslims. You’re obviously from a very religious background and it’s very sad to see that. You don’t need religion or a tent on your head to have values and humanity.

    Hejab is about protection from what??? If you have a problem with your own morality and ethics, why do women have to pay for it. If all men think about women the way you obviously do, namely a piece of sexaul meat that needs to be covered in the name of “sanctity”, and are so immature emotionally and spiritually and cannot control their desire , then you’re right, we do need protection from men like you. According to you, then every uncovered woman in the street should be raped left and right here in the West…and noone should ever get married or have loving relationships…

    Women don’t need protection from men. The only protection that can be given to any being is by God. God is the only one who has the authority to judge us. No man or woman is allowed to do that. Maybe, men like you think they are god and they can do god’s work? eh?

    I’m not expecting you to understand any of this because you’re operating system is incompatible with any new data or pieces of information. You can’t possibly process any information that is not already in your chip given the zealtory and the quality of “facts” you’ve been exposed throughout your life. Good luck though living here in the West.

    Here is a site you can learn about real Islam:
    http://eteraz.org/

13. serendip | May 25th, 2007 at 12:29 am

    Here is another site for understanding Islam:

    http://www.muslimmatters.org

14. Roman Kalik | May 25th, 2007 at 4:57 am

    Serendip, the Lebanese aren’t fighting the Palestinians but rather Fatah el-Islam, a terrorist group that recently went on a spree there. The group is supported by Syria, and uses the Palestinian camps as bases, as the Lebanese were forced to lose sovereignity over them to the PLO over 35 years ago, shortly before the PLO brought the country to a civil war.

    As for Hezb, they actually went as far as to blame the events of the past few days on a US/Leb-Govt plot.

15. Roman Kalik | May 25th, 2007 at 5:06 am

    Also worthy of note is that Lebanon is split down sectarian lines in its politics. Only the Shi’a support Iran, and even then only those that support Hezb. That’s 20% of the Lebanese at best.

    But after decades of Syrian occupation the Lebanese army is very weak. So Hezb remaining armed had to be accepted, both because of its strength and the fear of another civil war.

    Iran has sadly created a proxy in Lebanon, one that the Lebanese are stuck with for now.

16. Roman Kalik | May 25th, 2007 at 5:18 am

    As for the state Palestinians lived in before Lebanon sunk into its thirty-year dark age, their conditions were horrible then as well. Why? They were thought of as unwanted transients at best and as a weapon against Israel by the pan-Arabists. It was the same in all Arab countries.

    Integration isn’t an option (Lebanon is terrified of changing its demographic/political balance), so the Pals are screwed there for the moment, both due to their host country and their own self-nominated leadership.

17. serendip | May 25th, 2007 at 5:26 am

    Roman Kalik: All good info. Thank you. I think Lebanese, in general, don’t like Palestinians to become Lebanese due to some latent racism…I know many Lebanese, Christians, Sunni,Shia, and Druze who unfortunately are stuck up and feel superior.

18. Roman Kalik | May 25th, 2007 at 5:53 am

    Could be that, though their hostility to the Palestinians in particular is due to how the PLO screwed their country in my opinion. Like all Arabs, they treated the Palestinians as some kind of Holy Refugee in the past. That’s how the PLO was allowed into the country in the first place.

    As a rule though, Lebanese are sectarian. This also means being focused on how important their sect is above the others.

    In any case, this recent development may end up being positive for Lebanon.

19. Roman Kalik | May 25th, 2007 at 5:59 am

    After thirty years, the Leb army is important again, both to itself and to all Lebanese. That’s a major step forward for Lebanon in its climb out of the abyss.

20. Roman Kalik | May 25th, 2007 at 6:55 am

    You know, in terms of social/economics development and potential, Lebanon is miles ahead of other Arab countries.

    If only they made use of that potential rather than standing still. Jordan and the Emirates will overtake them because their rulers are taking the country forwards, while the Lebanese politicians serve themselves alone.

21. serendip | May 25th, 2007 at 3:03 pm

    Roman Kalik: You’re right about what the PLO did to Lebanese. The wounds are still fresh in some quarters. My husband is Lebanese-American and he hates Lebanon for being so sectarian. He refuses to listen to any news in regards to Lebanon…LOL

22. Roman Kalik | May 25th, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    Heheheh. So he isn’t of the more typical kind of Lebanese immigrant who brings the sectarian baggage along with him, or the dormant patriot who moans constantly about how crap Lebanon is yet follows news about it constantly? ;-)

23. serendip | May 25th, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    Roman Kalik: You might say that. Sometimes, I think he lives in a different planet. He doesn’t care much for the news except the local news on a local channel. He is and odd one.

24. Roman Kalik | May 26th, 2007 at 6:19 pm

    Serendip, he sounds like an isolationist to me. There are more people like that in the US than you might think.

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