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	<title>Comments on: People of America, Israel, and elsewhere, we sincerely apologize</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://kamangir.net/2007/11/04/people-of-america-israel-and-elsewhere-we-sincerely-apologize/comment-page-2/#comment-18854</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yahya, 

Terrorist usurper rogue?

What does one call a state that actually supports terrorism? Like you know, states that support and arm Hizbollah and Hamas?

Please tell me, is it Israel that urges children to blow themselves up killing the elderly and young in the name of some bloodthirsty God? What middle eastern &quot;states&quot; supported the Nazis in WWII? What states brutally removed Jews from their lands as soon as Israel was voted in to existence?

By the way, speaking of stealing, please have the Muslims return Temple Mount to the people who worshipped there thousands of years before the plagaristic &quot;religion&quot; called &quot;Islam&quot; was even invented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahya, </p>
<p>Terrorist usurper rogue?</p>
<p>What does one call a state that actually supports terrorism? Like you know, states that support and arm Hizbollah and Hamas?</p>
<p>Please tell me, is it Israel that urges children to blow themselves up killing the elderly and young in the name of some bloodthirsty God? What middle eastern &#8220;states&#8221; supported the Nazis in WWII? What states brutally removed Jews from their lands as soon as Israel was voted in to existence?</p>
<p>By the way, speaking of stealing, please have the Muslims return Temple Mount to the people who worshipped there thousands of years before the plagaristic &#8220;religion&#8221; called &#8220;Islam&#8221; was even invented.</p>
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		<title>By: Yahya'Bene'Dicere</title>
		<link>http://kamangir.net/2007/11/04/people-of-america-israel-and-elsewhere-we-sincerely-apologize/comment-page-1/#comment-18849</link>
		<dc:creator>Yahya'Bene'Dicere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you apologize for a statement like &quot;Down with israel&quot;? Okay, it is not strong enough, and it also fails to mention that israel is a terrorist usurper rogue (in the sense of having stolen, murdered, brutalised) entity calling itself a state. Other than that, the protest picture is a worthy statement for any reasonable person to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you apologize for a statement like &#8220;Down with israel&#8221;? Okay, it is not strong enough, and it also fails to mention that israel is a terrorist usurper rogue (in the sense of having stolen, murdered, brutalised) entity calling itself a state. Other than that, the protest picture is a worthy statement for any reasonable person to make.</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JAS @ 48,

Thank you very much for the explanation what real world is.

Still, I cannot see how your opinion differs from mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JAS @ 48,</p>
<p>Thank you very much for the explanation what real world is.</p>
<p>Still, I cannot see how your opinion differs from mine.</p>
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		<title>By: JAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo:

In the real world (as compared to fictional comic book characters, etc.) wearing a mask of some kind in public in the United States is usually related to criminal or depraved activity...for example, a thief in a bank. Thus, depravity is what first comes to mind when we see masked men or women marching or demonstrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo:</p>
<p>In the real world (as compared to fictional comic book characters, etc.) wearing a mask of some kind in public in the United States is usually related to criminal or depraved activity&#8230;for example, a thief in a bank. Thus, depravity is what first comes to mind when we see masked men or women marching or demonstrating.</p>
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		<title>By: brando</title>
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		<dc:creator>brando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, there are a lot of comments on this thread.  

&lt;i&gt;One of these days the Americans are going to run out of patience and nuke your [â€¦] kind to extinction.&lt;/I&gt;

Good grief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, there are a lot of comments on this thread.  </p>
<p><i>One of these days the Americans are going to run out of patience and nuke your [â€¦] kind to extinction.</i></p>
<p>Good grief.</p>
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		<title>By: Liber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garduneh, you have such a beautiful name, and yet you are so messed up and blind of hatred. What a pity. May heaven help you.

Shahrzad, instead of calling yourself a journalist you should resort to telling fairy tales like your famous namesake of Alf leyla wa leyla. Go on: &quot;Yek-i bood, yek-i nabood...&quot; Then, at least, you would be honest to your audience about making all that stuff up.

Kamangir: I admire your honesty that prevents you from simply deleting that crap off your website, your patience to endure the slurs of the people posting it, and always without losing your composure and politeness. You are certainly living up to the standards set by my much-revered Iranian friends, who, longing for their fatherland, will die in exile -- but will do so as true Iranians: honest, upright, and benign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garduneh, you have such a beautiful name, and yet you are so messed up and blind of hatred. What a pity. May heaven help you.</p>
<p>Shahrzad, instead of calling yourself a journalist you should resort to telling fairy tales like your famous namesake of Alf leyla wa leyla. Go on: &#8220;Yek-i bood, yek-i nabood&#8230;&#8221; Then, at least, you would be honest to your audience about making all that stuff up.</p>
<p>Kamangir: I admire your honesty that prevents you from simply deleting that crap off your website, your patience to endure the slurs of the people posting it, and always without losing your composure and politeness. You are certainly living up to the standards set by my much-revered Iranian friends, who, longing for their fatherland, will die in exile &#8212; but will do so as true Iranians: honest, upright, and benign.</p>
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		<title>By: ella</title>
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		<dc:creator>ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shahrzad

Hmm, that is a standard answer.  
You need to get some courses in literature and (probably) in Sufi allegory, metaphors and use of parable .....then you will understand the deep meaning in poems.
And if one did(I did not but a friend of mine did) but still disagreed in some cases,  then the given answer is &quot;Ah, but you are a westerner, you don&#039;t know anything.&quot; 
Then there is a religion: 
You need to read Quran, then you will understand our religion...............but no, wait, you did read it. But then you need to read hadiths and perhaps Ishaaq&#039;s &quot;Sirat Rasul Allah&quot;.  But you did, didn&#039;t you.  Well, then, you need to read it in arabic then you will get the meaning of it.............hmm, you didn&#039;t, didn&#039;t you.
And if someone did read it in arabic then there is the main objection...........&quot;you are not muslim so you can not understand our values&quot;.

Shahrzad,  some (please note: some, not all)  of your poets did drink wine, liked young slaves and behaved in a way that in today&#039;s Iran would land them in prison. And they wrote about it.....beautifully.

&lt;strong&gt;Kamangir&lt;/strong&gt;: I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shahrzad</p>
<p>Hmm, that is a standard answer.<br />
You need to get some courses in literature and (probably) in Sufi allegory, metaphors and use of parable &#8230;..then you will understand the deep meaning in poems.<br />
And if one did(I did not but a friend of mine did) but still disagreed in some cases,  then the given answer is &#8220;Ah, but you are a westerner, you don&#8217;t know anything.&#8221;<br />
Then there is a religion:<br />
You need to read Quran, then you will understand our religion&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;but no, wait, you did read it. But then you need to read hadiths and perhaps Ishaaq&#8217;s &#8220;Sirat Rasul Allah&#8221;.  But you did, didn&#8217;t you.  Well, then, you need to read it in arabic then you will get the meaning of it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.hmm, you didn&#8217;t, didn&#8217;t you.<br />
And if someone did read it in arabic then there is the main objection&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221;you are not muslim so you can not understand our values&#8221;.</p>
<p>Shahrzad,  some (please note: some, not all)  of your poets did drink wine, liked young slaves and behaved in a way that in today&#8217;s Iran would land them in prison. And they wrote about it&#8230;..beautifully.</p>
<p><strong>Kamangir</strong>: I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JAS @ 21,

I am not sure I understand your reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JAS @ 21,</p>
<p>I am not sure I understand your reply.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seem to be more women and children in the demonstrations. I think they are being forced to do this. I really feel sorry for the    plight of the women. Look at the stark contrast between the men and women. Men are dressed in colorful attire where as the women wear black or grey or white and they can reveal only their faces. If this is not oppression of women, what is?
When will the people in Asian countries come out of this oppression and inequality?
As long as there are men in this world especially in the Middle east and other south asian countries, women are doomed! 
I usually come to your blog to see what other atrocities are happening in this world and every time, I just ending up depressed. It is extremely sad but you are doing a good job enlightening people on the injustices happening in some parts of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seem to be more women and children in the demonstrations. I think they are being forced to do this. I really feel sorry for the    plight of the women. Look at the stark contrast between the men and women. Men are dressed in colorful attire where as the women wear black or grey or white and they can reveal only their faces. If this is not oppression of women, what is?<br />
When will the people in Asian countries come out of this oppression and inequality?<br />
As long as there are men in this world especially in the Middle east and other south asian countries, women are doomed!<br />
I usually come to your blog to see what other atrocities are happening in this world and every time, I just ending up depressed. It is extremely sad but you are doing a good job enlightening people on the injustices happening in some parts of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garduneh apparently took the blue pill...&quot;You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake in your bed and you believe whatever you want to believe.&quot;

It&#039;s guys like him that hurt any peaceful and intelligent opposition to political Islam. Lumping all Muslims together as enemies is dangerous...more dangerous than believing all Muslims are innocent.

Be gone. You are a virus. You are an empty head full of vitriol with a big mouth and loose lips. People like you live like bottom feeders; sustenance sought in the waste of higher creatures.

&lt;strong&gt;Kamangir&lt;/strong&gt;: I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garduneh apparently took the blue pill&#8230;&#8221;You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake in your bed and you believe whatever you want to believe.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s guys like him that hurt any peaceful and intelligent opposition to political Islam. Lumping all Muslims together as enemies is dangerous&#8230;more dangerous than believing all Muslims are innocent.</p>
<p>Be gone. You are a virus. You are an empty head full of vitriol with a big mouth and loose lips. People like you live like bottom feeders; sustenance sought in the waste of higher creatures.</p>
<p><strong>Kamangir</strong>: I agree.</p>
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