Knowing Ahmadinejad’s love of photoshop, his calls for Israel to be wiped off the map may indeed be only a matter of playing around with Photoshop, than actually sending nuclear missiles down the path (the missiles might end up being painted paper as well).
So, this is how Ahmadinejad will annihilate the Jewish state, according to Gooya News.
Before the operation.
After the operation.
Frankly, Photoshop sucks compared to some 3D modeling stuff I’ve seen like 3D Max. I think they should try to master some 3D software. There is only that much as you can achieve by playing with photo imaging tools. 3D is the way to go
Comment by Nobody — July 13, 2008 @ 3:30 pm
Her Her Her
Comment by Mani — July 13, 2008 @ 7:03 pm
That was easy!
Comment by leo — July 13, 2008 @ 7:25 pm
Watch this mate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43CGnZMVBjM&eurl=http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/34730
Comment by Mani — July 13, 2008 @ 10:08 pm
If I was in Britain I would go and kiss the hands of this man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUFLpP9Prxo&feature=related
Comment by Mani — July 14, 2008 @ 1:22 am
It just had occurred to me.
Is Israel even on Iranian maps? For something that is not recognized there is sure a lot of talk about.
PS. I recall visiting Tapkopi Palace in Istambul seven years ago and I noticed map of the ME on the wall next to the entrance. There was no Israel on it. And Turkey is not exactly unfriendly to Israel country.
Comment by leo — July 14, 2008 @ 12:09 pm
Oh, joy – Mani has found George Galloway, much in the same way Mahmoud Ahmadinejad found Chavez. Mani, do you honestly need a radical left-wing politician, one who issued a statement of public support in Saddam Hussein, who believes in the same Zionist conspiracy theories your regime so actively spreads and who is certain the media is owned by “Zionists”, who is so busy being a local firebrand revolutionary speaker that he ends up being buddies with people who just happen to hate the same people he does, who supports undemocratic regimes in Third World countries as a “stabilizing force”… just as long as they don’t become too friendly with his perceived enemies, who profited from his friendship with Saddam’s regime in the Food for Oil fiasco while so actively accusing “western capitalists” of being the true corrupt ones, all the while enjoying his private bankroll from Iraqi businessmen who supported the Baath regime…
George Galloway had issued public support of any seemingly Left-wing dictatorship on the planet, and had also defended those dictatorships which had the same enemies as he did – hence his love affair with the pan-Arab nationalists, and to some extent with the Islamic Republic of Iran. As Galloway himself said, the greatest disaster for him was the disappearance of the Soviet Union – one the most imperialist, authoritarian, and politically fanatical pseudo-national entities to ever exist. But who cares about that – it was Socialist! It was Left-wing! It was against the US! Hence, it was perfect.
Well, go kiss his hands, then. He supports your lack of freedom. But he has the same enemies you think you have, and thus… he is now your friend.
Comment by Roman Kalik — July 14, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
Roman Kalik,
There is a famous proverb here that says “Look at what is said not who has said it” I don’t care who this guy is what political branch he fits in I liked these comments of his and of course I might not be agree with all he said but tell me what part of his comments is not truth.
Comment by Mani — July 14, 2008 @ 6:47 pm
Mani – Callaway is a very eloquent speaker, but listen to him.
1. He and his caller are wrong; the UN gave Israel to the Jews, originally based on Balfour. The British didn’t grant the Jews Israel.
2. He states the Jews never experienced prejudice in Muslim countries – there are many sources that state other wise.
3. He says something about the Jews never suffered the slightest discrimination in the land of Palestine. Another point that can be debated. The 1929 riots, Haj Amin al-Husseni, etc.
Don’t forget he is a politician with a “gift of gab”, but his so-called facts are one-sided.
Comment by Robby — July 14, 2008 @ 9:39 pm
Robby
I agree that he misses some points but look at the mainstream media at the moment and ask why is it that now muslims are projected as the number one enemy of the Jews while Jews have suffered and are suffering more anti-semitic approches in their European homelands. Why should Palestinians pay the price for what Europians did to the Jews. I think the major problem now is that Israel has become equal to Jews and anti-zionism has become anti-semitic. And while united nations was founded in 1945, how could it grant the Palestine to the Jews while the first migration started much earlier. To correct your sentence it was, the League of Nations, not UN granted the United Kingdom a mandate over Palestine for the express purpose of “placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home”. and any way this or that doesn’t matter. The thing is how they can grant from other people pocket.
Also watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6wEw8PZ9DU
I deeply feel sympathy with Jews after going those terrible nighmares of holocaust and mad nazzism, but what is happening at the moment in Gazza or West bank can not be justified by any of these historical facts.
Comment by Mani — July 15, 2008 @ 12:10 am
I agree with you about one thing, the real problem is what is going on in Southern Israel, Gaza and the WB. I don’t see how this guy helps solve that problem.
BTW – On this recording he states:
1. Israel has nothing to do with the Jews – I don’t agree. He then reminds the caller that he never used the term ‘Jew’. Israel is a Jewish State, everyone should quite pretending anything else.
2. He claims not a single Arab state is doing anything to damage Israel. What about ‘collective punishment’ of refusing to trade with Israel. Or the Arab state-run news organizations constant one-side attacks. And who is financing HAMAS, an ‘organization’ sworn to destroy Israel? (yes, I know Iran is not Arab).
3. He wails about Palestine being wiped off the map, but it was the Arab states that refused to consider the Partition Plan, or ANY partition plan. It was the Palestinians themselves that that made the choice.
Comment by Robby — July 15, 2008 @ 9:24 am
Robert, in support of your replies:
1. He and his caller are wrong; the UN gave Israel to the Jews, originally based on Balfour. The British didn’t grant the Jews Israel.
It is even further than that. The British Mandate had, in fact, done pretty much everything in its power to go against the Balfour Declaration a mere few years after the event – the rising Arab states were more important, politically, as the powers to be in the Middle-East and the people controlling its oil. And yet the British could not stop the wish of so many Jews to rebuild their ancient homeland.
The British granted Israel to the Jews? Far from it. It was granted against their wishes, in the end. Even Churchill’s soft spot for the Zionist Movement wasn’t worth much, as he was wasn’t exactly capable of doing anything about said soft spot while being involved in trying to endure WWII.
2. He states the Jews never experienced prejudice in Muslim countries – there are many sources that state other wise.
And Mani’s reply:
but look at the mainstream media at the moment and ask why is it that now muslims are projected as the number one enemy of the Jews while Jews have suffered and are suffering more anti-semitic approches in their European homelands. Why should Palestinians pay the price for what Europians did to the Jews.
Are you familiar with the Almohad Dynasty, Mani? At their height during the 12th century, they ruled North Africa, and had taken over Al-Andalus. Their approach to Dhimmis was much worse than the standard Muslim practice of second-rate citizenship (oh, and do note that part as a general reality throughout the Muslim lands), and their approach to Jews was simply – they could convert, they could buy permission to leave Almohad dominion, or they could die. Beheading for religious reasons became quite a common affair in the merry Almohad Empire.
Or perhaps you would like to talk about the Caliphs of Egypt? Caliph al-Hakim the Mad took the Pact of Omar to a whole new level – Jews were loud bells on their clothes, and carried a carved wooden image of a wooden calf by his explicit order, as he wanted Muslims to recognize and shun Jews for their supposed evil at any corner. Not in any way different, I might add, from what Jews were forced to wear in some Christian lands – clothes that deliberately made them stand out, or that marked their “inherent evil” to good and honest Christians.
Heavy deliberate taxation of Jews was the norm, going much beyond the *standard* special tax of Jizya. After all, went the logic, Jews weren’t good and honest Muslims. Thus, the evil Jews (who are probably hoarding ill-gotten gains) must pay extra. Still no different from Christian Europa of the Middle Ages, I’m sorry to say. Made-up libels, accusing the entire community of this of that trumped-up crime, on faked charges, to extract gold from the community was common. And it wasn’t just the norm in Egypt during the Middle Ages, but also, sadly in other Muslim caliphates all the way to the Ottoman one.
Morroco? Touch and go, with the 19th century seeing open a growing trend of hatred and eventually open massacres in the streets. The Jew-friendly Morrocan monarchs are a fairly recent event, coming only after the the French Protectorate in the 20th century.
Tunis? One word – Hara. That’s how the ghettos the Jews were restricted to were called, and there too they wore “distinctive” clothing by legal decree.
Your own Iran? Early 20th century, classic blood libel consisting of a trumped-up charge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiraz_blood_libel
And as all such events, it became a public event for the whole family! Loot and pillage the Jews! And then Reza Shah rose to power, and his friendly policy to Nazi Germany resulted in him mirroring their policy towards Jews – antisemitic tracts became widespread.
Iraq? Consistent persecution, with the minimum being the famous “yellow star” – which wasn’t invented in Nazi Germany, but all the way back in the 8th century, to mark Jewish Dhimmis so that good and honest Muslims don’t accidentally confuse them with someone good and honest. Early 19th century saw massacres. Early and middle 20th saw an attempted revolution by fascists, and while the revolution failed, they most certainly had the chance to kill them some Jews.
Syria? Ups and downs, calms and heavy taxations, and the occasional round of loot and pillage to make things interesting. Middle 19th century saw a blood-libel (the Damascus Affair), and an extortion of astronomic proportions (the rulers held 200 Jews, and threatened to execute them all should the Jews not produce 4,000,000 piastres).
Yemen? Yemen was a place where Jews were treated like dirt for centuries, where they enjoyed all those little laws that made them “special” – as in what they can wear, where they can or can’t buy a house, how their hairstyle can look like, and how Jewish children could be taken to be “saved”, being raised by the Palace to become good and honest Muslims.
As for more recent events, Mani, why don’t you consider just how it is that pretty much all the Jews of the nearby Muslim countries, be they North African, Middle-East Arab, or even Persian, somehow ended up out of their homes. Hint – it wasn’t a global Zionist conspiracy. In Jordan, a law has existed for decades that states that a Jew cannot buy land or a home. Syria’s scant remaining Jews live in a ghetto. Egypt’s have been entirely expelled, as have Iraq’s with its laws targeting the community directly in the Fifties. Saddam’s Ba’ath Party went a step further and razed pretty much all synagogues and places of Jewish learning in Iraq, as if they were never even there…
Want to know something, Mani? Arab Muslim states were the greatest threat to Jews worldwide following the fall of Nazi Germany. Starting from blatant hate propaganda against Jews and “Zionists” (you know, even the Ku Klux Klan use that label to protect themselves from accusations of antisemitism). Nasser pretty much imported the old East European hate propaganda, such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and conspiracies about “Evil Zionists wanting to conquer us all” were widespread throughout the pan-Arabic alliance, as well as being quite common in nearby Muslim countries – even Morocco, as Muslim Moroccans old enough (middle-aged) to remember them tell me.
How about today, eh? Look up a certain book published by the former Syrian Minister of Defense. Or their series “Al-Shatat” – I hear it enjoyed good ratings in Iran. Watching it I saw pretty much every single antisemitic stereotype to ever exist, along with the crap common in both in the Klan’s rallies, in pan-Arab propaganda, and today in Iran – “The Zionists want to conquer land from the Nile to the Euphrates, the Zionists want to kill us all, the Zionists are like Nazis, and they cooperated with them”, along with the classing Elders of Zion conspiracy of “The Zionists are an age-old global sub-sect of the Jews who seek purity of race, world domination, and who manipulate world conflicts to serve their sinister end goals”. Back in 2005, David Duke (former leader of the KKK) got statewide publicity in Syria.
Or the Egyptian series “Horseman Without A Horse”? Same “Global Zionist plot based on age-old traditions, as detailed in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion”. Is this the criticism you speak of, Mani? And as for the Muslim Brotherhood, their claims range from echoing the French antisemitic politician Le-Penn, to lamenting the fact that the Jewish Zionists were not erased utterly from the face of the earth.
Saudi-Arabia? I don’t even want to discuss how Jews are perceived there, and the official state teachings on that. I prefer not to touch that kind of filth too often.
Palestinians? The Hamas statement of principles details the world domination plans of the Evil Zionist Jews, how they manipulated European wars to serve their sinister purposes. Mahmoud Abbas, the so-called “friendly” Palestinian president, wrote in his doctorate thesis about how the Evil Zionists inflated and faked the proportions of the Holocaust for political gains – that was the reality he, Abbas lived in, and that was the reality he had to pander to be accepted in the pan-Arab political world.
Lebanese Hezbolla’s Al-Manar station? Aired “Al-Shatat”, discussed the “Great anti-Arab conspiracy”, and has quoted from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion on air so many times, it looks like they actually believe it to be their holy book and not the Qu’ran.
The bottom line, Mani, is that the Muslim world, from the 8th century to the 19th, was merely *relatively* better than Christian Europe for Jews to live in. It as all there, just as it was in Europe, just less common. That may be commendable by itself, by the standards of those days, and the specific nations of note – Salah ad-Din’s caliphate, and the late Ottoman Caliphate, did try to bring true equality to their lands, and are worthy of respect. But you know, such… protecting regimes, if you will, also existed in Europe at times. Charlemagne openly invited Jews into France, as did some Germanic kings at times.
This vary, Mani. Things shift and turn. In recent history the Muslim world, particularly the Arab Muslim world, has been the greater risk to Jewish lives – not Europe. We could live in the past, or we could try and handle the present, and build a better future. Up to you.
I deeply feel sympathy with Jews after going those terrible nighmares of holocaust and mad nazzism, but what is happening at the moment in Gazza or West bank can not be justified by any of these historical facts.
Of course. Gaza and the West Bank have *nothing* to do with the Nazi regime or the Holocaust. They’re about the Israeli-Arab conflict, a combination of many factors such as Hajj Amin il-Husayni and the rather pathetic way Palestinian Arabs followed his fanatical path, and continuing with the nascent Arab states needing a way to recover their pride in the post-Colonial reality (be it Ottoman, British, or French) by starting a total war of utter destruction against the state of Israel on Day One. The war in question, I might add, didn’t really end until 1973, and the general conflict itself continues to this day. Gaza was conquered by Egypt, Mani, and the West Bank by Jordan. Neither country saw fit to grant Palestinians any sovereignty. Both regions were left under Israeli military control after the Six Day War in 1967, a war that ended with Israel offering total postwar peace negotiations – and getting the Arab League’s middle finger in response.
Future agreements left the two regions in Israeli military rule, because realities changed – Egypt and Jordan saw the two areas as too troublesome to keep, leaving the trouble in question to Israel instead. Israel, in fact, had been the only country in the region, since the British Mandate, to offer Palestinians sovereignty, and negotiations thereof. The rest… are busily screwing up the lives of Palestinians to this day. They don’t care, never cared, and likely never will – the Palestinians had forever been a political card up someone’s sleeve, a way to bother Israel indirectly while ruining the lives of Palestinians in the process.
That’s what Syria and Iran are doing today, Mani, with Hamas. It’s their way of harming Israel while keeping their hands clean.
Start reading the history beyond just what you’ve been taught, Mani. It’ll help. George Galloway, who just echoes the crap his “Left-wing stabilizing dictatorships” utter, isn’t the answer.
Comment by Roman Kalik — July 15, 2008 @ 1:41 pm
Mani: “look at the mainstream media at the moment and ask why is it that now muslims are projected as the number one enemy of the Jews while Jews have suffered and are suffering more anti-semitic approches in their European homelands.”
It is because Muslim immigration from former colonies in Africa has increased to European countries and because irate Muslims attack Jewish Community Centers everywhere from Buenos Aires to Seattle. It may also have a little something to do with unending terrorist attacks against “the Jewish pigs,” as Hamas members put it. And perhaps because one of the last things Mohammed (pbuh) said was: “May Allah fight the Jews… Two deens shall not co-exist in the land of the Arabs.” (Malik’s Muwatta, B45N45.5.17)
Mani: “Why should Palestinians pay the price for what Europians did to the Jews.”
A common misperception is that the Muslim Palestinians were not involved at all in the deaths of Jews during WWII, but they don’t call it a World War for nothing. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mohammad Amin al-Husayni, was an ally of Nazi Germany and had met with Hitler and inspected SS troops, as he said he felt that “there were considerable similarities between Islamic principles and National Socialism.” He said, “Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews.”
He was one of the leaders in the Arab riots and led Muslim Palestinians in pogroms against Jewish Palestinians, even before the Holocaust had begun throughout the 1920’s. By the end of that decade, newspapers abroad were reporting that Muslims were perpetrating a Holy War against Jews in Palestine. This “Holy War” was part of the widespread anti-Semitic propaganda created by Arabs to incite violence against Jewish Palestinians. Arabs from outside the region of Palestine even crossed the border in order to assist the massacre of Jews or smuggle weapons across the border to Muslim Palestinians for said purpose.
By 1930, the Grand Mufti claimed The Wailing Wall — the most holy Jewish site — for all Muslims, and told Palestinian Jews there is no room for compromise and that Muslims don’t want Jews at their “Muslim Wall”. By 1937, two years before WWII, foreign newspapers were no longer describing the widespread pogroms by Muslim Palestinians against Jews as “riots” and were now reporting it as “terrorism”. Not that Jews were his only victims. From exile in Syria and later, Iraq, he directed his followers to riot against Jews and the British as well as to assassinate Arabs who opposed him. His reign of terror continued until the founding of Israel.
Mani: “and any way this or that doesn’t matter. The thing is how they can grant from other people pocket.”
The British conquered the Ottoman Empire, which had previously held that region of land. The Ottomans are not Arab. Once the British held the land after conquering the past holders of the land, the non-Arab Turks, they did what they pleased with it. That includes partitioning off 80% of Palestine to give to the non-Palestinian Hashemites.
I always marvel at the ability of people to condemn the creation of Israel as stealing land from Palestinians whilst remaining indifferent to the creation of Jordan.
Comment by N.D. — July 15, 2008 @ 1:50 pm
[...] Blogger, Kamangir, has also exposed another possible Ahmadinejad plot to wipe Israel off the map. The method does seem a much more simple operation compared to an exchange of missiles. If Israel were to follow suit and use the same method to wipe Iran off the map, maybe the whole Mid [...]
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In connection with Archer post.
It seems that Ahmadinejad and pasdaran do not need to annihilate Israel, Israelis themselves would depart from the Middle East.
According to Fars agency ” Israelis have begun to fearfully evacuate occupied Palestine following the last week military maneuver and missile tests by Iran’s Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC). ”
;-) :-) ;-)
Comment by ella — July 17, 2008 @ 8:14 pm